My developer experience is spanning over two decades. “Somehow,” I have managed to feed myself and (most) of my children by being a software developer. I put somehow in quotes because that is likely quoting one of the words of the people who have “passed” on me over the last few years, effectively stating “objectively” that I have failed the job interview. (When I refer to the ‘interview’ here I am grouping the multiple interview process into one, big interview.)
I deliberately do not put the word failed in quotes because I agree with them: I have failed. Where we are likely to disagree are in the details of the failure. The devil is in the details. But before I rant into that, let me go over the three constructive and progressive things I have done in response such failure (in order of appearance):
- I started using LINQPad to study technical subjects under academic-laboratory conditions.
- I started publishing my life’s work as a programmer on GitHub.
- I bought books to study the internals of C#, domain-driven design and algorithms (and data structures).
Notice that I am not studying anything about the acting performance of the interview. No concern for interviewing “technique,” hacks or tricks. This is because I assume (based on experience) that I learned how to behave in an interview situation just a few years after leaving college. Any behavior from me regarded as “incorrect” by third parties are not my (primary) concern. (Yes, I do tend to talk “too much” during an interview which makes the suspicious assume that I am stalling to prevent the next question from being asked or the current question from being answered. This habit of mine is a violation of basic interview technique.) It is an indicator of incompatibility based on “cultural fit” issues that experience has shown me are often anti-developer (or anti-professional-developer). All we have to do is search for “largest data breach in history” and find the companies listed as a “victim” of a breach and then investigate their “culture.”
An Idealistic Disagreement over the Meaning of Professional
One primary way I fail at job interviews is over the disagreement over the meaning of professional. I regard my definition as pure and ultra-conservative:
A professional is one who can profess in public patterns and practices that produce constructive outcomes that are valuable to a business with the intent to make these outcomes reproducible by other professionals.
In the “real” world, on the street level, a “professional” is someone who knows how to shut their mouth at the “right” times. An interview from a culture that I regard as toxic may speak to me in ways that suggest I am “somehow” unaware of this street-level definition. They may use phrases like “in a perfect world” or even “what do you want to be when you grow up?” to counter my need to conserve meaning.
Being rejected by a company over this disagreement is actually holistically healthier for me over the long term but just as financially deadly. I have no intent to get around this issue. Welcome to my world of low net worth.
Using the Knowledge of Data Structures and Algorithms As a Weapon During the Interview
What I do intend to do is learn more about algorithms and data structures from a historical point of view. This interest should come naturally after years of using them (somewhat blindly) in the field. On the surface (and most corporate stuff is superficial), it appears that I am responding to a small subset of my interview failures by learning more about a technical subject so that I can “succeed” at future interviews. This is not true and is not recommended.
I am open to studying algorithms because I am at a level of experience (and relative financial “comfort”) such that I am independently motivated. These are subjects of my interest—and I am more than certain that, should I master these subjects, making them appear in my casual conversation without regard to the time pressure of the interview, those interviewers who previously rejected me would still find a reason to reject me. This is because I am convinced they used these esoteric/academic subjects as a way to get rid of me. (By the way, it may help to add that interviewers who previously rejected me at a given company were replaced years later by a second set of interviewers that didn’t.)
Yes, there are some low-hanging-fruit reasons based on American tradition why an interviewer would need to get rid of me. But when it comes to being rejected over failing to respond correctly (on command within seconds) to algorithm-related topics, I assume that most interviewers reject me because they are trying to weed out people who are not students of computer science.
This simply means that interviewers who majored in computer science in college prefer other computer scientists. A physics guy like me is simply not welcome to that kind of party. Nevertheless, I have finally found the time to study some computer science stuff and that is underway. Physics people are notorious for thinking they can learn anything. Just ask a biographer of Watson and Crick.
The Cultural Values around Performing on Command
In recent years, I have conducted job interviews myself. I currently see two general approaches to the interview: one approach values performance on command and the other does not. The performance-on-command approach often has the subtext of suspicion of fraud and the weeding out of impostors. This is a law-enforcement or criminal-justice-system approach to interviewing that often openly offends me during the interview. Imagine meeting a person that pre-judged you as a rapist that keeps starving corpses tied up in the basement and then you “prove” to them that they are wrong about such wildly erroneous prejudgment. This resolution of a misunderstanding sounds like a happy ending until one realizes the underlying “philosophy” undergirding such wild, savage misunderstanding. Actual experience informs me that people who are wildly wrong about you are wrong about other things as well—and wild misunderstandings are likely to happen again.
Anyway, let’s get back to preferring performance on command. The most flattering commentary I am willing to write on the Internet (on my technical Blog) about IT cultures that value performance on command is under what I entitle, The “Hot Girl” Approach to Interviewing. The stereotypical, self-described “hot girl” does not actually interview potential candidates. The ‘pure’ definition of interview does not apply here. The “hot girl” essentially finds all people replaceable and interchangeable. People are so cheap there is no need to learn anything about them. On the contrary, we people have to learn about the “hot girl.” This “hot girl” approach works pretty well for hiring beginners, trying to find their first (or second) IT job, as these people are actually (relatively) replaceable. These replaceable people are less than five years graduated out of some kind institution where they were on the low end of some kind of hierarchical command and control structure which means they are trained to perform tasks that has little or nothing to do with their personal interests (at the moment). It is understandable that inexperienced people should be literally disrespected: little or zero time should be spent asking them questions based on looking at their experience. Here, my purist use of the word disrespect is intended to call attention to how one does not look at another. When I was a developer with less than 10 years of experience, I was willing to endure this disrespect. I tolerated being asked canned questions that demanded canned answers. (Even complex algorithm-related questions are still canned, adversarial questions.)
The (Technical) Interview Style I Prefer
An interviewer is representing the culture of the “team” in which I would be embedded. To inform me that this is not the case, is to inform me about the toxic situation of the company culture. An interviewer has taken at least five minutes to view my resume and will ask me questions based on that “intimate” knowledge. My resume is full of claims that must be verified by me. That is my honorable responsibility. To suggest that one is too “busy” to take time out for this “intimacy” is, again, informing me about the toxic situation of the company culture.
The technical interviewer is supposed to demonstrate the supremacy of their knowledge compared to mine by working from my comfort zone out towards wherever they want to go. When I conduct interviews, I strive to do this. An interviewer is lazy when she asks me generic questions designed for “everyone” and then has the nerve to suggest with tone of voice (or through the hearsay of a recruiter) that I am lazy or stupid because I fail to understand their generic, cookie-cutter quizzes. Is the lazy interviewer testing my ability to listen to arbitrary instructions under pressure or is she testing my technical ability as an experienced developer who almost never works under such rote-memorization drama? (The best lazy compromise, by the way, is the take-home test.)
My Last Failed Interview
It is not really an irony to me: my last interview failure had nothing to do with someone trying to get rid of me (as far I know). The interviewer asked me a question that is directly from the experience stated on my resume. I simply could not remember the answer to the question. Minutes after the interview I looked up the answer and within seconds understood.
Yes, the question was from a technology that I have not worked with daily in over two years but I could have prepared and refreshed before the interview. I did not prepare for the interview because I did not know that the company was looking for this technology from two years ago. I did not know this because the company is large and has many open positions requiring different technologies. In, say, a three-month period I applied for more than one position at this one company using different recruiters. It was too easy for me to get interviews confused and be poorly prepared. (The only easy way out of this is to have the privilege of being a developer that specializes in one technology. Being prepared for interviews is far more easier. I have never had this privilege.)
- “A 2015 meeting with JPL when I started using LINQ in interviews…”
- “Google Interview CUMSUM Challenge”
- “Hiring a programmer? Ditch the coding interview and get back to basics”
- “How We Designed Our Interview Process”
- “People are still bad at gauging their own interview performance. Here’s the data.”
- “The Programming Interview from Hell”
- “Programmers Are Confessing Their Coding Sins To Protest a Broken Job Interview Process”
- “Typing the technical interview”
- “Every time I read a tweet about interview Qs for dev jobs I know I would never ever get hired! Good thing I’ve been self employed for 25 yrs”
- “My Google Interview and Lessons Learned”
- “Punishment Driven Development with Louise Elliott”
- “2016 Software Engineering Internship Amazon Interview Experience”
- “Google’s top boss is stumped by one of his own firm’s interview questions”
- “The Job Interview Will Soon Be Dead. Here’s What the Top Companies Are Replacing It With”
- “I once failed an interview because I said that humility was important to success…”